Hi guys I’m Andrea Cimitan! ![]()
Sorry for the delay but here we are, with an abundance of updates for Ambiance and its complementary bright theme, Radiance!
It has been a great couple of weeks for me, where I continued working jointly with our visionary design lead Otto Greenslade, who I would like to thank for everything: working with him is really an exciting and valuable experience… he is fun, and the more I work with him, the more comfortable I feel and that means improving our productivity day-by-day.
We appreciate your feedback, all your comments, ideas and requests… and we used it as a base for the evolution of the theme. One of the things I love about the open source movement and our challenge is that is so easy for you to get in touch with us so that you feel how simple it is participating in the future of the whole product. That’s absolutely a peculiarity of the free software world, a characteristic closed software doesn’t have and definitely something we should be proud of.
Now let’s go back to the stuff we are all most interested in!
Ambiance
We highlighted few of the things you suggested, and worked hard to implement them while keeping an eye to the design and respecting our visual identity. Our goal is always to achieve the best compromise between overall look and usability.
- The text color: it is darker over the same background, resulting in more readability.
- The selected taskbar button: it is darker so it looks more distinctive among other inactive windows.
- The inactive menuitem color: now it stands out more over the background.
- Progressbar: is flatter, simply because we prefer it
- Spinbutton: it is larger, so it’s more clickable and looks more consistent with the rest of the theme.
- Scale: look at the new sound menu to see how it is… cool, isn’t it?
- Treeview: elements inside the treeview are using a small radius (previously they were squared).
- Calendar: just a minor fix, especially for the indicator-datetime.
- IconBox: now Appearance Preferences’s selection looks sweet…
- Toolbar: has 1 pixel of padding.
- Window borders: the corners at the bottom are now squared, benefits for window dimensions, alignment of the statusbar and resize gripper, other things I have in mind like future dark themes (trust me).
Radiance!
Radiance shouldn’t feel like a different theme, but more like a brother/sister to Ambiance, exhibiting some brighter touches.
Dark theme
As someone of you may know, with Gtk+ 3.0 applications could check and load the dark variation of a theme. That was *exactly* the idea behind the dark theme you have seen previously. Since there are no applications currently using this feature (but there will be in the future, imagine shotwell, f-spot, gimp, totem, whatever) for the moment we concentrated our efforts on the other two themes, but I think that I will continue working on this in the future months and then include this dark variation for both of them.
We need you!
As I wrote above, let’s love the free gift open source gives us: communication!
In particular, we appreciate your feedback on these topics:
- Scrollbars: are they really too tiny? what is your experience?
- MenuItems: do you feel they are slow? (not in GIMP, which seems slow for a different reason)
- Radiance, Radiance, Radiance!
For anything else, we are here – so don’t wait another second before submitting your feelings, or to thank us if you are in love with the progress we’ve made so far…
Thank you guys for the attention, see you with the next update!

The toolkit

112 Responseshide comments
Wow, that looks awesome!
Yes, the work it’s awesome!!
And yes, the Menuitems are too slow, on Firefox, on Ubuntu Menu.. Every Menuitems are too slow on Ambiance… I’m waiting for the new package for tray this update
So, erm, where is the package? On Launchpad, I only see 0.1.6.8.
Will arrive soon, we are working on it.
Wow that looks amazing! Were can I get that? I tried the Murrine Daily Builds PPA but the Radiance theme isn’t there!
Also where can I get that wallpaper? It’s slightly different to the default wallpaper but I like the orange glows on it more
oh sorry didn’t see lucidfox’s comment
I get why the window border at the bottom isn’t rounded anymore. (Dark GTK theme app would look stupid if the bottom window border would try to use the bright bg color instead of the dark one.) But I personally liked the rounded bottoms on windows, it made them, I dunno, more fun? XD At least they seemed consistent with all the other theme elements, that are all rounded.
BTW I’m totally okay with the scrollbar width. My own theme (InSight) hides the scrollbar steppers, and even if you don’t do that, I think nowdays scrollbars most of the time only serve as showing the user where they are in a certain content, but they pretty much lost most of their interactive functionality to the mousewheel. So having a thiner one is acceptable.
This is an absolutely superb update of what is my favourite ‘Light’ theme. Excellent work, team. Can’t wait for the release. =D
FUCK YEAH!
This should be default one. Dark menus are unprofessional.
I think it looks very good.
But, I hope the wallpaper can get a higher resolution so it also will look nice on bigger screens(like 1900×1200).
increasingly looks better, congratulations,but why the ambient is the default?. that design arguments you use to say that dark is better than light(irony by the name of themes).
in the other hand the window buttons are very flat compared with those of lucid. is also preferable that highlight the effects of passing the mouse over is now little contrast.
(but it looks really good. good work and remember, you can not make everyone happy)
Daniel.P
lightgraphite.com
Beautiful
I hope Radiance will become default
For the inpatients, the two themes are in launchpad. You need to update the engine as well.
For everyone else, Ken VanDine will update the packages soon, that will land in maverick.
The scrollbars are difficult to handle with a tablet or laptop trackpad. IMHO they should be wider.
Keep up the great work!
Observation note to theme creators >>>
Use a little darker text, something like 33,33,33
Observation note to DanRabbit >>>
Create little more lighter panel icons and emboss them like in Elementary
I demant perfection, i am UI fetishist
Hi,
please let this theme come true. It really really rocks. And BTW, it’s much sexier than Ambiance.
Greetz from Germany!
I see that icons in menus are blurred like in current Lucid themes. You need to set in theme GTK icons sizes in menus to 24, not 22pixels!
Will sometimes purple Human theme? Menu items such as the color of the upper bar here on the site?
Petr, purple is Canonical color, Ubuntu has orange. But don’t mind, you can change the selected bg color from your Appearance Preferences window
First off, thanks for actually replying in the comments, Andrea! Didn’t happen in the last post on the theme.
Thank you! That’s a nice update
Just why Radiance isn’t the default theme? Could you explain? I think that light themes look more professional. Merk in the comment in OMG!Ubuntu said: “I always wondered why Radiance wasn’t default. The rebranding of Ubuntu was all about “light”, yet the default theme is a dark one.”
If you ask about the speed, the earlier version of Ambiance theme was really slow in Ubuntu menu at least. I’ll check how it is after the update and will tell you.
For everyone willing to download the new themes on maverick :
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/0.1.7/+build/1935743/+files/light-themes_0.1.7_all.deb
Overall Theme is beautiful… BUT The background I think should change. I Assume it’s temporary?
Please excuse the harsh criticism, but those orange splotches on the background feels completely out of place and changes the background from mediocre to ugly.
Looks good!
But will the rounded corners on windows ever not be jagged?
> Since there are no applications currently using this
> feature (but there will be in the future, imagine
> shotwell, f-spot, gimp, totem, whatever)
Totem already uses it.
Now Radiance looks better!
Color of title bars and menu bars look good (better than the strange tone they had in Lucid).
Scroll bars’ width is ok for me.
Curious things: Why are tabs in gedit taller than in Appearance or in Messaging? I prefer the latter because they are smaller, more compact.
Monochrome panel icons in Radiance would look better in some lighter gray, say #606060 or even #707070.
Pet peeves: A more compact version of Radiance / Ambiance would be very nice. Those of us with crappy 1366×768 laptop screens would love it!
@Tor Løvskogen Bollingmo: it’s great to have communication between developers and users
@Børge A. Roum / forteller: unfortunately, not in time for maverick… maybe we will figure out a solution for Natty Narwhal (Ubuntu 11.04).
@Bastian: Hi my super French friend
Supercool to have that in Totem (I remember our conversation at the Pizza Express near St. Paul)! I hope to have the dark variation for maverick. I need to rewrite the gtkrc to be more modular before.
I finally have the new versions of the themes.
Ambiance is still slow.
Radiance is very fast.
In my opinion the background of radiance menus should be lighter. The color of panels is perfect, only background could be different (maybe less brown more grey and lighter.
And about the default theme once again: ambiance looks more like a finished one, so maybe it’s a better default theme for today. But after some (little) work with radiance it would be a better default theme.
Now about the wallpaper (if that’s the new default wallpaper): I just thought it will be a more different one. I liked lucid wallpaper just I was hoping some new fresh look in Ubuntu 10.10. A single default wallpaper can make a huge difference.
Don’t think I’m not happy with the changes. I think there is much important to say what could be better than what’s already perfect
Is there a theme that makes title bars look like the rest of the window for a minimalist appearance like iTunes and Safari on OS X?
wow! congrats! i’m amazed… a true leap forward. it really looks like windows 98 with some orange and purple hues, now.
I love the new light themes for Maverick, they look way better than the old ones. And yeah, Ambiance is still having the slow menu-items issue, haven’t tried Radiance yet…
ScrollBars: for me it’s ok, but understand laptop users difficults.
MenuItems: all menu items are slow (glow performance issue).
Radiance is very beautiful!
Being a interface designer and all, I did my feedback visually. Rounded corners and a fuzzy icon: http://designalized.com/69/ubuntu-feedback.png
@Tor Løvskogen: Menu corners are very beautiful, but GTK+ can do this?
Who needs Mac OS X when you’ve got Ubuntu? Great work!
I like the new iterations very much. But for me, you made it this time a little bit too matt. I liked the satin sheen and the little indention in version 1.6.8 way more than it is now (different people-different tastes
While the Lucid version was too much of gradients shadows and reflection, this time it is (at least for me) not enough bling. Maybe some light gradient to the light grey background like in the dark menus?
Keep up the great work Cimi!!!
DnaX – Don’t know. Could hardly be impossible.
Looks like a huge improvement over the Lucid theme. Especially the menus and window buttons.
The only problem I have, is that it is too hard to see the scroll bar grab handles. This is in-part to my older non LED LCD display. But it is till a huge issue for me.
@Tor, @DnaX: With gtk+/cairo this is possible… rendering-wise (see notify-osd or unity’s quicklists). But as far as I can tell it would require considerable amount of work in a theme-engine to get it right and work in all cases. Furthermore the rendering of the menu’s drop-shadow would also have to happen inside the theme-engine. CSD is once again the answer to this
The themes are really sexy… I love Radiance! But the default wallpaper not at all… I mean just read this page on Omg!Ubuntu! http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/ubuntu-1010-default-wallpaper.html I’m not the only one to think it should be changed!
Have to totally agree with the comment about a tablet, which I think will also apply to touch screens. Since we seem to be moving more and more to absolute point input devices, I think it’s worth investigating whether the current width is enough.
Love the theme though, looks are great already!
Congrats on the new theme. It’s looking great.
About the earlier comments on antialiased rounded edges:
If Emerald can do it, why can’t Metacity / Gtk-window-decorator implement it too?
This is pretty much the only reason I still use Emerald…
Both themes are terrific, and I agree that Radiance now has a much more professional look than Ambiance, and would probably fit better as default theme!!
Feedback:
- Notebook tabs look much better imo if you set focusstyle=3 (both Ambiance and Radiance)
- The through of the window buttons may need a bit of highlight in the lower part. At the moment I always think “what’s that dark spot above the buttons? a rendering glitch?”. And i think that the “x” needs a bit more relief: it looks flatter that the other 2 buttons because the background is red.
- progressbars without label are way thinner than progressbars with text inside. Oh, and they deserve just a bit of gradient on the through
- scrollbars are fantastic!! I don’t have any problems using my touchpad. But I understand that others may have…
- what about a look more like the focusstyle=2 for prelighted menuitems? (darker border, lighter bulk, a bit of roundness)
everything above was of course just imho
Thank you for your hard work and for the wonderful results!
Hi,
Good work with the default theme. It represents the colors of Ubuntu/Canonical very well and nice. But I think radiance should be the alternative we haven´t got never before (Cool colors) Windows, Mac OS, RedHat and even the default Gnome and KDE Desktop themes, all use cold and simple colors like very light gray with blue, and I think that gives a good feeling when you spend too much time working on your PC.
Congrats for your work! You made Orange/Purple look so cool!!
Cheers
Mariano
IMHO the padding around the scollbars absolutely sucks (that separates them from the textarea in gedit for example). The same goes for the tabs. There are way to much lines in the theme.
Scrollbars: tiny!
MenuItems: what? not slow for me at all! (then again i have disabled compiz long time ago…)
Radiance: the gnome-terminal background “from theme” is too dark purple for radiance.
Thanks again for all your feedback.
It’s hard for me to believe that menuitems are fast in Radiance and slow in Ambiance, because they are using exactly the same style with a small difference for the border, which should not imply that slowdown. Are you sure it’s not related to AppMenu in maverick or so?
Hey, really love you, but you can’t be serious about that wallpaper, can you? Something that should be the eye catcher of a release shouldn’t look like random acid burns on pink jelly.
The border needs to grow some pixels.. maybe 5 or such
Who said this is the default wallpaper? Please stop discussing about the wallpaper, this blog post is about Ambiance and Radiance
A new blog post about future wallpapers and design decisions will follow next week.
and please continue reporting your feedback to the main topics. (I am reading everything)
Trust me again